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WARNING: Before starting make sure you find out how to reset your BIOS for if the PC fails to boot and doesn't recover itself

NOTE: Socket 754 users make sure you have a PCI/AGP lock and it's enabled before overclocking, else you'll be lucky to get 220FSB. If you don't have a PCI/AGP lock i'd advise you not to overclock because it could damage your graphics card/PCI devices


1. Recommended Tools:

Prime '95 (For testing stability) http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
A program to check your CPU temp, motherboard monitor is good http://mbm.livewiredev.com/download.html
Memtest '86 (for checking for RAM errors) http://www.memtest86.com/
CPU-Z (For checking CPU info) http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php
Benchmarking software, 3D mark is good http://futuremark.com/download/

2. What you need to know

Overclocking can strain your system, and in the worst cases damage your hardware if you don't know what you're doing, do not overclock if your PC unless you are confident with PC hardware/software.

Overclocking is an art and a hobby of mine, you can get more for your money when overclocking, e.g my 3000+ (s939) cost be £120, when i overclock it to 2.2GHz, it has the same performance as the 3500+, which is around £200, thus saving £80.

Heat effects your CPU, as you overclock your CPU, your CPU will gain more heat, keep an eye on your CPU temps.

Don't let the CPU go anything over 60C idle, else you risk your CPU of being damaged.

If you want to lower your temps, getting better cooling is a good idea, I don't know of many good Athlon 64 heatsinks, but watercooling is highly recommended for overclocking and can nock around 20C off your temps. I find the stock AMD heatsink is pretty good for a decent overclock anyway, overclocked my CPU is only 32C idle.

RAM is a big factor when it comes to CPU overclocking, as the FSB (front side bus) increases, the RAM speed also does too. I'd only recommend overclocking with RAM which is DDR400 (PC3200) or faster, otherwise you won't get much more out of your CPU. With RAM, you usually get what you pay for, if you have pricey stuff, chances are it will overclock well, if you have generic/value DDR400 RAM, you'll be lucky to get 220FSB out of it without dropping the RAM speed. If you want good RAM which won't need to be reduced in speed for an overclock, i'd go for RAM faster than DDR400 (PC3200), brands like OCZ and Crucial are highly recommended for overlocking.

Obviously, the CPU itself is a factor when overclocking. Here is a list of what Athlon 64 CPUs are the best for overclocking at present:

Athlon 64 3000+ (Winchester & Venice Cores)
Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester & Venice Cores)
Athlon 64 3500+ (Winchester & Venice Cores)
Athlon 64 3800+ (Venice Core)
Athlon 64 FX53 (All cores)
Athlon 64 FX55 (All cores)

Your core info can be found on CPU-Z found at the top of the guide

Just because your CPU isn't on the list, doesn't mean it can't overclock very well, it's just those CPUs are common for high overclocks, so socket 754 users don't worry, but I have to agree at present, socket 939 is the best for overclocking.

Not all CPUs are the same, some models run hotter than others (my friends who has a very similar setup to me has his CPU 8C hotter than mine, and his is bearly overclocked)

Core Guide:

Clawhammer: Moderate Overclocking Possibilities (Variable)
Sledgehammer: Moderate Overclocking Possibilities
Newcastle: Low/Moderate Overclocking Possibilities (Variable)
Winchester: Moderate/High Overclocking Possibilities
Venice: Moderate/High Overclocking Possibilities

Low: 200-300 MHz overclock
Moderate: Around 500 MHz+ overclock
High: 700MHz+ overclock

Remember: The more you overclock, the more chances of your system becoming unstable, to help make your system stable, add an extra small voltage to your CPU(AKA Vcore)/RAM

3. Overclocking

OK, now here's an example of an overclock:

AMD Athlon 64 3000 (Winchester S939)
Stock Speed: 1800MHz
Multiplier: 9X

*Remember to keep an eye on the CPU temp, try not to get it over 60C*

1. Enter your bios by pressing Del or F2 (Varies which each motherboard)
2. Set the HTT multiplier to 4
3. I'm using DDR400, so i'd lower it to DDR333 (or the lower the RAM number in the RAM:CPU ratio) to make the RAM more stable as the FSB goes up, don't forget at 250FSB, the RAM will be 400MHz again
4. Keep increasing the FSB by 3-5mhz and testing in between each increase
5. Unstable at 262 FSB
6. Increased CPU voltage by 0.025v and RAM voltage slightly
7. Stable
8. Keep increasing the FSB by 3-5mhz and testing in between each increase
9. Unstable at 267 FSB
10. Changed DDR Speed to DDR266 (because of the RAM being DDR400, over 250FSB it would run past DDR400)
11. Stable again
12. Keep increasing the FSB by 3-5mhz and testing in between each increase
13. Unstable at 282 FSB
14. Went back to last stable overclock (267 FSB), i feel this is a good enough overclock

Stable Overclock: 267 x 9 = 2400 MHz
Stock Speed: 1800 MHz
An overclock of 600 MHz

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stezo2k   Athlon 64 Overclocking Guide   Apr 20 2005, 07:12 PM
Hardass   May be worth mentioning the HTT value, and trying ...   Apr 22 2005, 10:36 AM
Bile_Hazard   pretty nice guide, unfortunatly i cant overclock o...   Apr 22 2005, 10:53 AM
snoopaloop   QUOTE(Hardass @ Apr 22 2005, 11:36 AM)May be ...   Apr 28 2005, 08:25 AM
staind   i overclocked my 2800+ (clawhammer) on an asrock76...   Apr 30 2005, 01:24 PM
stezo2k   QUOTE(snoopaloop @ Apr 28 2005, 02:25 PM)What...   Apr 30 2005, 01:36 PM
staind   i was tempted to go for 2.4 but since i put all my...   May 1 2005, 05:51 AM
strekship   How do i check for a PCI/AGP lock.   May 4 2005, 12:40 AM
stezo2k   QUOTE(strekship @ May 4 2005, 06:40 AM)How do...   May 4 2005, 08:00 PM
strekship   Ok, thanks.   May 4 2005, 08:20 PM
brozly   Did you check your manual?   May 4 2005, 08:44 PM
pje   Hi you mean their is guides to help you overclock ...   May 7 2005, 01:51 PM
MajorPayne   The article is correct about the overclocking pote...   May 9 2005, 12:06 PM
hookedm   Could you do the same with an FX-55 ? M   May 19 2005, 03:50 AM
Spoony_McSpoon   you can indeed. don't forget the FX series com...   May 19 2005, 09:38 AM
Infamouz   I'm curious.. i have a 3500+ clawhammer, would...   May 19 2005, 08:40 PM
hookedm   My board does not come with overclocking features ...   May 19 2005, 08:46 PM
hookedm   no , i cant replace it ... long story   May 19 2005, 08:49 PM
Hippo   stezo2k, what is your core voltage? mine is at 248...   May 19 2005, 09:33 PM
guru   MadShrimps has published their own Athlon64 Overcl...   May 20 2005, 08:50 AM
ailton2k5   Hello guys how are you My system is AMD64 3000+ ...   Jul 7 2005, 06:42 AM
WebX   What about HTT multiplier??? I've got a64 3000...   Jun 9 2005, 02:54 PM
Mr.Elusive   I have a AMD64 3500+ 939 (Newcastle) processor and...   Jun 23 2005, 02:59 PM
Camaro   it sounds like your AGP/PCI bus is not locked. Do ...   Jun 24 2005, 02:21 AM
Mr.Elusive   QUOTE(Camaro @ Jun 24 2005, 08:21 AM)it sound...   Jun 24 2005, 07:56 AM
tonycrew   I have been readng all the posts and with my setup...   Jun 28 2005, 01:55 AM
ChoGGi   this thread has some pretty useful information abo...   Jun 28 2005, 02:28 AM
tonycrew   Thanx for the link... :) I just found out i have a...   Jun 28 2005, 02:44 AM
gab   QUOTEIf stability is not gained with raising vdimm...   Jun 28 2005, 03:14 AM
j_epsilon   QUOTE(stezo2k @ Apr 20 2005, 07:12 PM)If you ...   Jul 1 2005, 02:28 PM
3oh6   QUOTE(j_epsilon @ Jul 1 2005, 03:28 PM)could ...   Jul 1 2005, 03:29 PM
ChoGGi   go here http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/ see...   Jul 1 2005, 03:06 PM
killerspeedAMD   hi all. i have an a8v deluxe,3000+ winchester, 2x5...   Jul 7 2005, 10:49 AM
Lord Magnus   I've got Cool & quiet enabled on my MB (Ch...   Jul 7 2005, 06:49 PM
KuulKuum   QUOTE(Lord Magnus @ Jul 7 2005, 04:49 PM)I...   Jul 7 2005, 07:23 PM
Lord Magnus   Thanks for the fast reply my friend. I thought I s...   Jul 7 2005, 07:36 PM
Lane   Never use the Cool & Quiet when you OC, get a...   Jul 8 2005, 06:42 AM
Yaozer4   Hello im looking for some help ive been trying to ...   Aug 14 2005, 10:31 PM
Camaro   You will need to tell us about your system, what m...   Aug 15 2005, 12:10 AM
Yaozer4   Well my system is like this NForce4-A939 AMD Ath...   Aug 15 2005, 10:54 AM
choser   wow thanks for this tutorial man... i already got ...   Aug 24 2005, 07:47 AM
choser   QUOTE(choser @ Aug 24 2005, 01:47 PM)wow than...   Aug 24 2005, 07:58 AM
vandit27   I recently got an AMD64 3000+ (Venice) and an ASUS...   Aug 25 2005, 01:54 PM
ChoGGi   you want to increase your fsb of 166 (ddr333) upto...   Aug 25 2005, 02:44 PM
vandit27   no..sorry, i know it was missleading, but i meant ...   Aug 25 2005, 03:34 PM
choser   QUOTE(vandit27 @ Aug 25 2005, 09:34 PM)no..so...   Aug 25 2005, 03:49 PM
vandit27   practically I have to change my memory to DDR400 (...   Aug 26 2005, 02:00 PM
ChoGGi   who knows if you'll get +500 but faster ram an...   Aug 26 2005, 02:11 PM
Saint_Saturn   I'm currently having some problems with OC...   Sep 4 2005, 02:42 PM
3oh6   QUOTE(Saint_Saturn @ Sep 4 2005, 03:42 PM)Wha...   Sep 4 2005, 02:59 PM
Saint_Saturn   Thanks for replying so fast. This information is l...   Sep 4 2005, 03:45 PM
3oh6   no worries, glad it helped. i have a copy of ever...   Sep 4 2005, 03:55 PM
Saint_Saturn   OK, now that i'm at home, I get to play around...   Sep 4 2005, 05:17 PM
Pyr0   Trial 2: HTT= 250x9 HT= 800 (x4) vCore= 1.475 DDR ...   Sep 4 2005, 05:21 PM
Saint_Saturn   QUOTE(Pyr0 @ Sep 4 2005, 02:21 PM)Trial 2: HT...   Sep 4 2005, 05:25 PM
Pyr0   i'm sorry, my mistake up to 1000MHz is fine   Sep 4 2005, 05:28 PM
Saint_Saturn   I'm a little curious if the following may have...   Sep 4 2005, 05:39 PM
3oh6   QUOTE(Saint_Saturn @ Sep 4 2005, 06:39 PM)Doe...   Sep 4 2005, 07:05 PM
Pyr0   it's always better to increase in small steps of 5...   Sep 4 2005, 06:53 PM
3oh6   QUOTE(Pyr0 @ Sep 4 2005, 07:53 PM)it's al...   Sep 4 2005, 07:08 PM
Saint_Saturn   This is my current running setup. I had to leave...   Sep 4 2005, 08:20 PM
3oh6   QUOTE(Saint_Saturn @ Sep 4 2005, 09:20 PM)Out...   Sep 4 2005, 08:27 PM
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Saint_Saturn   I've recently changed some settings around (at...   Sep 5 2005, 01:56 AM
Lord Magnus   I've got a K8v SE Deluxe, that has the K8T800 ...   Sep 6 2005, 05:56 AM
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3oh6   QUOTE(Saint_Saturn @ Sep 8 2005, 01:38 PM)Out...   Sep 8 2005, 01:38 PM
l33t x64 m4$t4   yo so lemme get this straight, the htt(fsb)xcpu mu...   Sep 18 2005, 02:19 AM
d34rb0y   heres my everclocked for athlon 64 2800 CPU(s) ...   Oct 21 2005, 01:02 PM
d34rb0y   by the way im using air cooling dual thermaltake t...   Oct 21 2005, 01:12 PM
Trido   Nice tutorial. I just modestly overclocked my Ath...   Oct 27 2005, 01:18 AM
Justyn   OK, I need some help here, the tutorial was great ...   Oct 30 2005, 03:31 AM
Justyn   WHAT HE HELL!!!!! Someone plea...   Nov 7 2005, 01:58 PM
ChoGGi   my buddy also has a chaintech but its an nf3 board...   Nov 7 2005, 10:51 PM
darealraz   i ran into a problem. i have a ECS NF4 Pro mobo an...   Nov 8 2005, 01:41 AM
Daveandrew   QUOTE(darealraz @ Nov 8 2005, 01:41 AM)i ran ...   Nov 10 2005, 05:02 PM
darealraz   well i just figured out its the psu. now i got my ...   Nov 11 2005, 01:46 AM
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cableguy_mcm   hi, i overclocked my Athlon 2800+ @ 1.80 "c...   Dec 3 2005, 11:45 PM
Reason   Hi, I've tested some little overclocking o my ...   Jan 6 2006, 03:11 AM
Reason   Ah, forgot one thingy.... I've let the voltag...   Jan 6 2006, 03:15 AM
Kenno   Hi guys, I finally took the plunge into 64-bit and...   Feb 10 2006, 10:16 AM
ruisu   It'd be nice if on this thread you posted CPU-...   Feb 11 2006, 04:39 PM
Kenno   Thanks, good idea ruisu   Feb 12 2006, 01:12 AM
Kestrel69   Very interesting thread. I used to dabble in overc...   Feb 13 2006, 07:22 AM
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